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Anonymous

What do u think about the teasers

requeefiem 2024-08-09 17:08:44

genuinely think these are some of their worst concept photos they look like they were taken on a phone and don't even get me started on how mad I am ab gunwooks... THIS WAS A FLOP PLEASE SHOW ME THE REAL CONCEPT PHOTOS THIS IS A JOKE RIGHT 😂?

Anonymous

the concept is great but who tf took those? even my yearbook photographer could do sm better 😒

requeefiem 2024-08-09 17:35:18

Like they're actually a fucking joke

Anonymous

member concept pics are kinda mid yet again i feel like they used the wakeone in house photographer and they aren’t really cohesive when out together in a collage. Their best portrait photos have always been from cfs 👎

requeefiem 2024-08-09 17:13:33

I'm afraid they had their manager take these on a phone forget about a photographer...

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Anonymous

What do u think about the teasers

requeefiem 2024-08-09 17:08:44

genuinely think these are some of their worst concept photos they look like they were taken on a phone and don't even get me started on how mad I am ab gunwooks... THIS WAS A FLOP PLEASE SHOW ME THE REAL CONCEPT PHOTOS THIS IS A JOKE RIGHT 😂?

Anonymous

seriously yujin is the only one that suits the concept BAD

requeefiem 2024-08-09 17:34:59

His looks mid too 😭 I don't like anyone's

Anonymous

What do u think about the teasers

requeefiem 2024-08-09 17:08:44

genuinely think these are some of their worst concept photos they look like they were taken on a phone and don't even get me started on how mad I am ab gunwooks... THIS WAS A FLOP PLEASE SHOW ME THE REAL CONCEPT PHOTOS THIS IS A JOKE RIGHT 😂?

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Anonymous

Would you prefer to be the whole group or like 1-2 members? Tbh no offense but I've watched the Sunwoo one, the ONF one and the teasers of the one coming with Natty and Julie and imo the less members, the more fun it is. ONF plot was kinda boring.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 06:06:15

it would be so hard to get something interesting with all 9 icl unless they did smth like that one Astro show but yea its prob gonna be like 3-4 members maybe 5 if we can stretch it. Maybe they'd get 2 episodes #mnetprinces 😆

Anonymous

girl we don’t even get relay dance and comeback show from mnet

requeefiem 2024-08-09 06:14:41

OK NVM THEN WE WONT GET IT DAMN 🤦‍♀️

Anonymous

i don't think we would get any because mnet exhausted the zb1 appearance fund in aotm and it probably didn't give them returns until now because the video is still disqualified for revenue since allins are still buying illegal views

requeefiem 2024-08-09 06:22:01

I'm not sure what makes yall think zb1s association to mnet is reliant on views and funds and not because.... they literally made the group 😭 it doesn't matter aotm doesn't have a youtube trend policy the views are still there and let's not act like hanbin wasn't the first obvious choice like damn it's not surprising who else was gonna get it. And im sorry are wakeone or mnet in debt their funds are more than fine

Anonymous

zb1 as a group haven't been receiving anything from mnet for a while now though but hopefully, they have niw since they're full blown in promos

requeefiem 2024-08-09 06:32:17

yea they haven't but it doesn't have to do with aotm or funds 😭😭 there's obviously some other issue but yea they seem to be going crazy with the schedules so let's hope and see

Anonymous

This is not true at all, mnet plastered zb1 around every KCON LA event that they could find.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 08:46:59

They mean mnet stuff like relays ig which I think we'll be fine for this cb

Anonymous

yea they like using them to promote their shit but can't do nothing for them back like the last time they actually did something for them was in their debut era while they just hand every other group shit

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:47:24

Yea they're kind of treated like bastard children icl but I hope they abuse their nepotism from here on out

Anonymous

lmaooo 😭😭😭

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:45:37

LMAOAOAOOOO they're funny as this friendships cute

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Anonymous

another hsnni gunwoook rumour just dropped on weibo set us free 😭😭😭😭😭

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:16:11

CAN WE GET SOMEONE NEW IM RLLT BOUT TO START HATING 🤦‍♀️

Anonymous

DAY RUINED I’M GONNA KILL MYSELF 🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:30:12

JFNNFNFMDDKKDMD dont worry im pretty sure its the k melon acc thats made a bunch of bullshit up

Anonymous

guys I’m sorry but THE hanni is not dating gunwook as many times as this is going to get recycled like please let’s use brains

requeefiem 2024-08-09 08:40:59

calm down w all that bullshit please nobody actually believes it and she'd prob date a mid aussie anyways watch ur mouth

Anonymous

like please chill on that she's a 19 year old girl not beyonce....

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:43:37

likejfjfjcjkdkdl are they crazy talking ab some the hanni

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Anonymous

Allins: you’re homophobic for criticizing Hanbin or thinking he couldnt possibly be the best dancer ever!!! Anything you say that isn’t worshipping him is homophobic and you are a horrible person!!!! They wonder why people hate them and why the fandom makes people not like Hanbin. Argue with a wall if you think fandoms don’t influence outside perceptions of idols. And like, do they not remember shotaro exists??? I don’t even like Riize and I genuinely dislike eunseok (don’t get me started on wackass Sungchan) but shotaro could outdance Hanbin in his sleep. Sorry dolls, your vapid one-dimensional hero worship of a man who clearly doesn’t want his queer art background coming to light, is, in fact, not a good thing too. Genuinely hoping now someone with a better tutting, whacking, and ballroom background debuts just so they shut the fawk up. Hanbin isn’t the end-all of talent. People can in fact be better than him and other dance styles in fact deserve respect.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 06:54:15

In his sleep is a huge stretch but I'm not kicking it with people who expect me to be a praise slave like them and have psychotic tendencies with anger issues it's so irksome like now we're gonna start praying against everything yall want boo

Anonymous

ngl even if the second coming of michael jackson himself debuted tomorrow they still wouldn't stfu the goalposts would just move. like they can't claim only dancer in kpop to specialize in tutting anymore but i'll bet they'll start pushing his "professional" status even more

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:32:30

It doesn't matter every kpop fan does that there's no such thing as criticism you will hear people call their biases the best _______ and be dead fucking serious

Anonymous

You guys need to leave that shit alone and thank god zeroses and allins stood up for hanbin during that week on where they called him a professional tutter every day bc if it wasn't for that reveluvs would get the last laugh and I refuse to let those hoes win, they annoyed me a lot since that psycho cover.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 08:45:38

I'm not thanking an allin for nothing tbh but those bitter geriatrics didn't win so good

Anonymous

like huh? why are we thanking allins for defending their fave 😭😭

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:43:13

Like idc 😭😭

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Anonymous

they're not yet prepared with the set list?!? Concert starts in September. https://X.com/4hyjdiary/status/1821572974077706624

requeefiem 2024-08-08 19:28:31

Oh they're getting that list beginning of September 😭😭 I hope they just plan this right and give the fans a good time

Anonymous

Concerts are usually prepared 2-3months and here we have zb1 probably preparing for 10 days only because they need to promote their comeback and attend festivals. I'm worried about the quality of the concert... They prepared for Japan fancon for over 2 months btw

requeefiem 2024-08-08 19:37:57

we are so cooked.... they're definitely starting in September maybe even the first week if we're lucky but damn kfans will kill themselves if they get the shit end of the stick again

Anonymous

Idk which groups you stan but almost all of the groups that I stanned started their tour just like 3 weeks after their comeback promos ended, it's kinda the standard lately tbh

requeefiem 2024-08-09 01:12:49

yea I know it's standard but no setlist a month before is crazy

Anonymous

other groups that have time to prepare for the concert before the last comeback. But in ZB1's case, they came from May comeback and had to prepare for August comeback while doing festivals and hanbin with his aotm which probably ate so much time practicing. See the low quality of their psycho cover? That would tell you that they don't have time to spare to even make a better stage. What seoul will get are their usual set list, songs from Aug comeback and one unit cover. I mean, seeing the same performances for many times already and seeing them again in their concert is such a waste. It would be nice if 50% of their performance would be the songs they haven't performed yet.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 06:52:02

Ngl ur doing too much

Anonymous

that's survival group nature. they wouldn't get ideal preparation, they just need to perform 20-30 songs without perfect stage direction/setting. the most fans looked are content of ment and their interaction with fans. they don't need stellar performance or decoration. i just worry about what content that wakeone will give to us.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:15:14

I'm not sure what's survival show nature about predicting a bad turnout for their first tour date in Korea lmao it's obvious there's not gonna be careful planning but a good direction is possible idk for me just rmbring how badly received their first fancon was im not gonna put out any negativity that's too sensitive

Anonymous

idk ive seen clips of kepler's japanese concerts and they seemed good. especially since these are concerts not fanmeets there's less of a chance we're gonna waste time doing ments and fanservicey games that are boring to watch so i think it will ultimately be down to how well they can get it together for these performances. maybe with time they've gotten better with being able to pick up quickly and they'll be able to do a good job even without a lot of prep time but we won't know until we get there i guess

requeefiem 2024-08-09 08:46:33

Yea this is a concert not a fancon so wayyy more focus on performance but I hope they can fill some of the downtime with fun stuff but ur right

Anonymous

i would be excited for a game if they could find fun ones to do but all i can think about is that fancon jiwoong fanservice torture chamber like... we dont want that but if there are any other ideas i'll be open 😭😭😭

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:44:16

I hope they know that's what pissed most people off like talking majority of the time and not being aegyo games please... no repeats

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Anonymous

wow mono is actually cc illiterate cuz they about to broadcast wookies dongdong bulge to 3k ppl

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:12:19

JNGNNNFMDMMFMRMGMMVM MM MCMDMMFM I've never come across a dumber bitch

Anonymous

isn't she the strictest anti "sexualising gunwook" doll why would she do that....but i guess that just applies to everyone but her

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:45:07

yup and that was so funny cuz she was tweaking with a thirst trap selfie in her pfp like allllright 😭 she can do whatever if it's her ig

Anonymous

This is crazy

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:43:01

The highest percentage?? Oh wow I heard he could face prison time

Anonymous

Idk if you keep up with Fifty Fifty but like, they announced the new members and two of them were pretty known participants from R U Next, including Chanelle. I went to the comment section of their most recent vid and all the comments are mostly in Korean, full of excitement and happiness. It’s just so depressing, seeing how it played out. The ex members are practically hated in Korea and will never work in entertainment again, the last OG member had to stay because she had a poor background and had no other option, the new members probably thought this was their last chance to debut, and the Korean public loves the CEO and the company cannot do anything wrong in their eyes, meaning ANY future issue with the girls and the public will drag them to hell. International fans might hate them but they’ll be successful irregardless because of the Korean backing. Give it a year or two and I think the international side will either ignore it (if the music is good) or forget the issues and then just listen to them. Obviously injustice happens every day and kpop is super unethical but this case feels exceptionally depressing because like you also want to help the OG girl succeed because she literally needs to (she was still slapped with a huge fine for what she did, not nearly as big as the ex-members but something she’ll need to work off for awhile). So it’s like, do you aid in abuse to help her or go against the institution that abuses her and in that processes, harm her and the other 4 desperate girls that will subjected to the company’s every whim with an even lesser ability than most idols to disagree with their company? It’s just so 🙁

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:42:13

I feel so bad for the girls that left because they were fined with MILLIONS like usd I didn't follow the case so I'm not sure how this happened but there's no way any of them can pay that back the situation seems sad the og girl had no choice and now the worst has happened. It'll be pretty weird to witness cuz I can see them having success in korea

Anonymous

Gunwook viral for his blush again 👅

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:38:36

I SEENNNNNNNNNNN 🙈🙈

Anonymous

1 year since jiwoongs detective show and he still didnt get that 1M😭😭

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:37:20

Anonymous

wow i just read some of ur latest ccs and damnnn why are allins are on ur ass and are writing paragraphs again 😭😭😭😭 these people are so miserable wow in ctfuuuu 😭😭

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:38:10

writing me all that word salad like man fuck outta here 😭😭

Anonymous

is hao gonna perform tomorrow since its a fanmeet in a mall and not a fansign?

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:37:37

no?

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Anonymous

wow mono is actually cc illiterate cuz they about to broadcast wookies dongdong bulge to 3k ppl

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:12:19

JNGNNNFMDMMFMRMGMMVM MM MCMDMMFM I've never come across a dumber bitch

Anonymous

I totally get what you mean about her now like why on earth would you answer with a link and then be dumb enough to post it publicly to your thousands of followers 💀 like if they ain’t seen that shit before they deffo going to go look now

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:39:11

mind u this is the president of the gunwook sexualization and age police like

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Anonymous

I finally realized how to article why Myung Jaehyun rubs people the wrong way. No it’s not his adhd (which is worse than Gyuvin’s by 100x and actually made me realize how lucky we were gyuvin’s been on adderal or whatever and caused him to mellow out a bit). It’s because he’s such a try hard. He’s constantly doing things that could go over any normal person’s boundaries, making jokes that for sure make at least someone uncomfortable, always trying to joke or even be the butt of the joke, and always taking the spotlight. He needs SO much attention that sometimes I’ll be watching bnd content and a diff member will be getting complimented and he interjects to make a joke or say something loudly, redirecting the spotlight back to him even if he was agreeing with the initial compliment to the other member. I don’t think he’s malicious and I can 💯 see him regretting his behavior in the future but like please, someone give him a melatonin every morning or put lavender essential oil everywhere he goes to chill him out.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:00:08

He's always gave jealous so it's no surprise that all attention must be on him or he'll freak and the way everything he does is for a reaction like buddy do you even know yourself as a person it's so weird to see it's like he was born an annoying celeb persona

Anonymous

adding onto this but i gen wanted to turn yesterday’s daechinso off (i usually watch for hanbin every week) bc myungjae kept saying stuff to boost his own ego i forgot what he said but they were talking ab the youngji collab stage so like -_-.. and hanbin bc he is nice and will literally compliment a snail kept feeding his ego too like we need to put an end to this

requeefiem 2024-08-09 08:50:21

glaze is dangerous when it comes to that guy

Anonymous

i thought i was the only one but yes anon he pissed me off so much like i swear yesterday's daechinso was a glazing myunjae special xcom/blushiebin/status/1821462855537045539

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:14:35

uhm... this is 10x worse than I imagined even the translation acc saying it's not related 😭

Anonymous

I know u don't care about this at all but it's insane how this acc will translate all of this nonsense but refused to translate anything hao said (about hanbin btw) on the day he came over for hanbins bday allins are so freaking bitter

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:39:28

oh damn beef is deep huh

Anonymous

just realized we have new kstreaming team

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:48:16

There was some kind of scamming fraud issue going on that started from yurayura the main strm acct looked fine idk if ppl blamed them but I guess kfans just wanted a fresh new start cuz the big chart acc is only following this one

Anonymous

if u ever got chance to go to their concert which one is your choice? - vip standing or vip seated - if standing, main stage or extended stage

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:27:30

vip standing and extended stage because even if they're at the main stage they're just farther away rather than possibly having to look at their backs if I'm at the main stage and they're at the extended stage

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Anonymous

Would you prefer to be the whole group or like 1-2 members? Tbh no offense but I've watched the Sunwoo one, the ONF one and the teasers of the one coming with Natty and Julie and imo the less members, the more fun it is. ONF plot was kinda boring.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 06:06:15

it would be so hard to get something interesting with all 9 icl unless they did smth like that one Astro show but yea its prob gonna be like 3-4 members maybe 5 if we can stretch it. Maybe they'd get 2 episodes #mnetprinces 😆

Anonymous

girl we don’t even get relay dance and comeback show from mnet

requeefiem 2024-08-09 06:14:41

OK NVM THEN WE WONT GET IT DAMN 🤦‍♀️

Anonymous

i don't think we would get any because mnet exhausted the zb1 appearance fund in aotm and it probably didn't give them returns until now because the video is still disqualified for revenue since allins are still buying illegal views

requeefiem 2024-08-09 06:22:01

I'm not sure what makes yall think zb1s association to mnet is reliant on views and funds and not because.... they literally made the group 😭 it doesn't matter aotm doesn't have a youtube trend policy the views are still there and let's not act like hanbin wasn't the first obvious choice like damn it's not surprising who else was gonna get it. And im sorry are wakeone or mnet in debt their funds are more than fine

Anonymous

Why is anon acting like aotm cost them millions 😭

requeefiem 2024-08-09 18:46:12

Right and also yall aren't fund managers calm down

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Anonymous

I finally realized how to article why Myung Jaehyun rubs people the wrong way. No it’s not his adhd (which is worse than Gyuvin’s by 100x and actually made me realize how lucky we were gyuvin’s been on adderal or whatever and caused him to mellow out a bit). It’s because he’s such a try hard. He’s constantly doing things that could go over any normal person’s boundaries, making jokes that for sure make at least someone uncomfortable, always trying to joke or even be the butt of the joke, and always taking the spotlight. He needs SO much attention that sometimes I’ll be watching bnd content and a diff member will be getting complimented and he interjects to make a joke or say something loudly, redirecting the spotlight back to him even if he was agreeing with the initial compliment to the other member. I don’t think he’s malicious and I can 💯 see him regretting his behavior in the future but like please, someone give him a melatonin every morning or put lavender essential oil everywhere he goes to chill him out.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:00:08

He's always gave jealous so it's no surprise that all attention must be on him or he'll freak and the way everything he does is for a reaction like buddy do you even know yourself as a person it's so weird to see it's like he was born an annoying celeb persona

Anonymous

adding onto this but i gen wanted to turn yesterday’s daechinso off (i usually watch for hanbin every week) bc myungjae kept saying stuff to boost his own ego i forgot what he said but they were talking ab the youngji collab stage so like -_-.. and hanbin bc he is nice and will literally compliment a snail kept feeding his ego too like we need to put an end to this

requeefiem 2024-08-09 08:50:21

glaze is dangerous when it comes to that guy

Anonymous

this is the worst combo ever a guy who constantly needs his ego stroked and the biggest people pleaser ever 😭😭

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:14:53

i hope he gets struck with lightning 😭

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Anonymous

com/spillthevins/status/1821769015955427446 another yuehua favorite

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:02:33

lol

Anonymous

o this ?

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:17:36

okay good for him

Anonymous

Mayb they're trying to push Gyuvin now because Yujin wasn't really doing much

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:30:40

that's crazy to say considering yujins one of the fastest growing members it's definitely not that

Anonymous

Yeah I kinda realized what I said was crazy after I sent it 😭 Just weird how he's getting so much resources in a short span of time

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:35:13

LMAOOOO like that is definitely not the case😭😭😭 yea ig they've decided gyuvins acceptable again whatever "they" may be

Anonymous

uncle hooked him up with a company auntie

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:13:26

He got the exec meeting extra cheesy

Anonymous

wow mono is actually cc illiterate cuz they about to broadcast wookies dongdong bulge to 3k ppl

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:12:19

JNGNNNFMDMMFMRMGMMVM MM MCMDMMFM I've never come across a dumber bitch

Anonymous

teen girls rlly can’t be teen girls in peace in this generation sigh

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:12:38

ofc it's a hefty ass man saying this

Anonymous

i don't think we should be that worried about fancon, well i am trusting w1 this time. after a lots of trial and error w1 genuinely improved a lot, they most probably will add 1-2 units and a group cover stage which they will most probably practice before fancon. also for the setlist they have performed all their main stages in kcon + the songs from this comeback, i hope they will add some remix version. so instead of doomposting, imo we really should manifest some good things

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:13:12

Yea I think it'll be fine the setlist not existing is worrying but idky we trynna pray on their downfall LIKE WHATCHRNFNNFNDMD I said lower expectations not speak against them

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Anonymous

I finally realized how to article why Myung Jaehyun rubs people the wrong way. No it’s not his adhd (which is worse than Gyuvin’s by 100x and actually made me realize how lucky we were gyuvin’s been on adderal or whatever and caused him to mellow out a bit). It’s because he’s such a try hard. He’s constantly doing things that could go over any normal person’s boundaries, making jokes that for sure make at least someone uncomfortable, always trying to joke or even be the butt of the joke, and always taking the spotlight. He needs SO much attention that sometimes I’ll be watching bnd content and a diff member will be getting complimented and he interjects to make a joke or say something loudly, redirecting the spotlight back to him even if he was agreeing with the initial compliment to the other member. I don’t think he’s malicious and I can 💯 see him regretting his behavior in the future but like please, someone give him a melatonin every morning or put lavender essential oil everywhere he goes to chill him out.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:00:08

He's always gave jealous so it's no surprise that all attention must be on him or he'll freak and the way everything he does is for a reaction like buddy do you even know yourself as a person it's so weird to see it's like he was born an annoying celeb persona

Anonymous

adding onto this but i gen wanted to turn yesterday’s daechinso off (i usually watch for hanbin every week) bc myungjae kept saying stuff to boost his own ego i forgot what he said but they were talking ab the youngji collab stage so like -_-.. and hanbin bc he is nice and will literally compliment a snail kept feeding his ego too like we need to put an end to this

requeefiem 2024-08-09 08:50:21

glaze is dangerous when it comes to that guy

Anonymous

i thought i was the only one but yes anon he pissed me off so much like i swear yesterday's daechinso was a glazing myunjae special xcom/blushiebin/status/1821462855537045539

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:14:35

uhm... this is 10x worse than I imagined even the translation acc saying it's not related 😭

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Anonymous

🤤🤤🤤🤤

requeefiem 2024-08-09 08:52:07

?

Anonymous

this is killing meeefbtsbdbnrhfn

requeefiem 2024-08-09 09:13:36

I'm gen confused 😭

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Anonymous

Allins: you’re homophobic for criticizing Hanbin or thinking he couldnt possibly be the best dancer ever!!! Anything you say that isn’t worshipping him is homophobic and you are a horrible person!!!! They wonder why people hate them and why the fandom makes people not like Hanbin. Argue with a wall if you think fandoms don’t influence outside perceptions of idols. And like, do they not remember shotaro exists??? I don’t even like Riize and I genuinely dislike eunseok (don’t get me started on wackass Sungchan) but shotaro could outdance Hanbin in his sleep. Sorry dolls, your vapid one-dimensional hero worship of a man who clearly doesn’t want his queer art background coming to light, is, in fact, not a good thing too. Genuinely hoping now someone with a better tutting, whacking, and ballroom background debuts just so they shut the fawk up. Hanbin isn’t the end-all of talent. People can in fact be better than him and other dance styles in fact deserve respect.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 06:54:15

In his sleep is a huge stretch but I'm not kicking it with people who expect me to be a praise slave like them and have psychotic tendencies with anger issues it's so irksome like now we're gonna start praying against everything yall want boo

Anonymous

ngl even if the second coming of michael jackson himself debuted tomorrow they still wouldn't stfu the goalposts would just move. like they can't claim only dancer in kpop to specialize in tutting anymore but i'll bet they'll start pushing his "professional" status even more

requeefiem 2024-08-09 07:32:30

It doesn't matter every kpop fan does that there's no such thing as criticism you will hear people call their biases the best _______ and be dead fucking serious

Anonymous

Isn't that what every fan does? Hype their favorite. Don't you also call gunwook best dancer, rapper and all rounder. Isn't it part of our fangirling experience? From what I saw I didn't see anyone being arrogant or dragging other idols. Why are you guys so offended by this? It isn't even a issue to discuss about.

requeefiem 2024-08-09 08:49:12

idky ur questioning me like you didnt just repeat what I said yes every kpop fans does this... like I literally said in the cc